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    Hi everyone,
    Well, to start with an nigh insolvable conundrum: I have the budget of a charity (literally), and want the audio quality of a Hollywood film (hopefully)!

    I'm hoping someone can help me out in selecting the best microphone for indoor dialogue recording.

    I have a DSLR rig, shooting educational videos in an indoor set. Right now, I have an ME66 microphone, recording to a Zoom H4n pocket recorder. I have learned the hard way, as many forums point out, that the ME66 (or any other shotgun mic) is not ideal for indoor use.

    So, I am looking for a mic suited to the reflectivity of indoors. Right now, I'm leaning toward the ME64, a cardioid microphone that runs on the K6 powering module, which I already have.

    I have read a lot of contradictory information online. Some say that a hypercardioid (such as the AT 4053b), not a cardioid, is best suited for indoor use. Others say a cardioid works just fine.

    Still others say that the Sennheiser K6 series is "junk." This, I can't understand. Yes, they may be expensive, and not as good value as some other mics. But from my experience, the Sennheisers sound great -- in the right setting.

    Would an ME64 be suited to my purposes, given that I am recording indoors and already own a K6? Or is there another microphone with sufficiently better audio quality, perhaps justifying an added expense over the ME64?

    Please note: I do not have my heart set on the ME64, but budget restrictions limit me to a mic under $800.


    Thanks for your feedback!

    Joel G

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    Default One more thing...

    I'm trying to avoid lavs... I recognize that it is a matter of taste, but I personally do not like seeing a lav mic on a subject's shirt, if it can be avoided.

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    I'm assuming that you are getting a hyper to use in addition to the ME-66.

    The ME-66 was the standard low-budget shotgun for years. The explosion of indie filmmaking caused by the digital revolution added a lot of competition.

    Opinions about audio gear are very subjective; what some folks love others will hate. I personally thought that the ME-66 sounded fine when recorded to analog tape (Nagra) or through a good analog mixer. However, when recorded directly to budget devices like the H4n the ME-66 and the -64 sounds brash and brittle to my ears. My mid/low budget preference is the Rode NTG-3.

    Hypercardioids are a bit more focused than cardioids, which is why they are preferred; a cardioid would be okay. For a mid/low budget hypercardioid you should consider the Audio Technica AT4053b. It's pretty standard, and sounds good. B&H has it for $500, and a kit with a boom-pole, shock-mount, etc. for a little under $800. If you want to go ultra-micro budget you can look at the sE Electronics SE1A. It's about $150, but far inferior to to the AT4053b.

    Always keep in mind - opinions are like butt-holes; everybody has one and they all stink.
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    I would save up and go the other way, Schoeps.

    the 41 is nice indoors, easy to maneuver http://www.schoeps.de/en/products/ca...cm_supercardio

    but only one, then the CMTI 5 http://www.schoeps.de/en/products/categories/shotgun

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    Somehow I don't think he wants to spend almost $7k on microphones, especially when he already stated he has an $800 budget.
    Peace,

    Uncle Bob

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    Default Thanks

    Thanks for the feedback! I'm right now leaning toward either the AT4053b, or the AKG CK93, a modular hypercardioid that someone pointed out to me. The 4053 sounds like the most tried and true option. But I modular designs seem to be slightly more economical.

    The Schoeps would be nice, but that would blow my budget a bit.


    Thanks again,

    Joel

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    I would get a used Sennheiser MKH416 (preferably the "P" phantom-powered version), then rent some additional microphones as needed. Wireless lavalieres can be extremely useful, and a skillful sound mixer knows how to hide the mikes in such a way that they're invisible on-camera. The trick is to avoid clothing noise and wind noise.

    Renting sound gear is often a much lower-cost option than buying, provided you're in a major metro area close to professional sound companies.

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    Default Me-64

    One thing that everyone seems to be overlooking is that the mic itself, without the K6 power module, is only about $169. Maybe he'd like to save some money? No rule says that one has to spend the entire budget on something.

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